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Breast Implant Illness/ Explanting/ Surgeons

November 8, 2019
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Posted by adrianne curry

I wanted to write this blog based on the 7 years I have spent researching and trying to understand how I could accomplish this with the best results. I had many setbacks which led to me not having it done yet, one being my Myomectomy in 2017. I didn’t want back to back major surgical procedures. A lot of vulnerable, scared and suffering women come to the internet in search of answers regarding having crammed foreign objects in their bodies to look more visually appeasing. I was one of them.  There are many doctors who offer this procedure, some far more experienced than others. Many, I believe have a major hype train around them. Hell, my surgeon who placed both sets of my implants had a HUGE hype train. My first set was nothing but pain, complications and deformity. My now second set (put in only 1 year after the first) was not satisfactory either. As amazing as that Doctor was on a personal level, his hype train did not reflect on my body.  I found the best information on breast explanting was on realself.com. I am very into personal accounts, photographic evidence, etc. I was also pointed to the direction of online communities of women who are suffering from their explants as a great way to shop for surgeons and hear true accounts. I personally believe some Doctors and some online communities have agreements that involve money to be published on a “list” of “approved” Doctors. This is not a list comprised by Doctors, Nurses or the medical community. This list is put together by people who claim these are the ONLY approved Doctors. I think this is a very dangerous practice. A list is fine…but this one is highly suspect to me. Many capable and amazing surgeons that many women have given accounts on and photographic evidence are NOT included. I deduce, because they haven’t shelled over some money. Over the years, when money is to be made, I always tread carefully. money is the great corrupter.

Women in my position (and maybe yours) are vulnerable and seeking answers. We can easily fall victim to being manipulated one way or the other if we are not careful. I went onto one of these communities for information. Make NO mistake, it was an absolute trove of it. MANY of the women were very awesome.  The doctor I finally did choose was being mentioned a LOT, but was not on the super special “ONLY THESE DOCTORS” list. In fact, MANY highly skilled and highly recommended and reviewed doctors do not make that list. However, people with no medical degrees or right to state that only these doctors are acceptable are doing so. Some of the top surgeons on it I contacted. One of them asks women call 90x a week, over and over for months. Then they act like the women are winning the lottery if the office decides they have the time to call them back. It is the most poorly ran office I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with. Highly unprofessional. Only when it was recognized I was a “celebrity” did I get that magical call back. I immediately blocked the number and recognized this as highly toxic and abusive behavior towards already suffering women. There was no way I would advocate for that, involve myself in it or influence any woman to subject herself to that simply because she saw that I went there. I did not feel “special” for my call back. I literally felt SICK knowing so many suffering women who stood in line before me were bypassed. When I expressed this in an online forum, I was immediately silenced. RED FLAG. Not judging anyone who wants to go this route, but it is not for me. With an award winning nurse of over 40 years for a Mother in-law, I know damn well who I can trust to ask things. She was aghast when I told her about this. Side note, she helps install robotic hearts to keep people alive till they get their transplants!

Another Doctor that is “highly recommended” seemed nice enough, but was very clearly running a breast explant factory…due to being touted as the end all be all of surgeons. Their prices were absolutely absurd and the things I was told I would need (via a picture) did not coincide with what I had heard from other skilled and experienced surgeons. I had already jumped onto a hype train to get my breasts with results I wasn’t a fan of. I did more research, and did not find enough photographs, mostly only written accounts, of their work to make me even remotely comfortable. I wanted to feel, I don’t know, SURE. I wasn’t comfortable with so little photographic evidence/reviews for one of the tippity top suggested surgeons. I also did not like how quickly women were wheeled out of their procedure and sent home. That is MY personal research and choice that I would never push on ANYONE.  When I mentioned some of this openly, I was attacked, silenced and told how utterly wrong I was. This doctor has a cult-like following that will tell you how ONLY they can fix you, help you and basically anyone else is sub par. RED FLAG. I have been to entirely too much therapy in my life to not recognize blaring red flag behavior from people.  It felt like that Simpsons episode with LEADER.

I want to make it clear that communities of women giving their input on their personal experiences are amazing. It’s when cult-like behavior, censorship of questioning of said behavior and claims that this doctor is better than the other by NON medical professionals starts up that I see nothing but RED FLAGS. This is why I was censored. I expressed that I found this behavior, this “fear mongering” highly toxic and non beneficial to me and my journey. Do your research but do NOT fall prey to opinions being facts. Do NOT let anyone fear monger you into your choice of doctor. Do not let any non medical professional claim one doctor is better than the other. Step away from opinions and look at ONLY facts. This is a very serious surgery and no one should influence your decision one way or the other. Simply research and divorce yourself from personal opinions. Look at photos, accounts, etc.  That particular doctor may be the best choice for YOU and others, but they were not for ME. They barely even had yelp reviews, which I found very odd. That should have been OK for me to express openly, but I was silenced. I am also against holistic medicines for myself. I have had people pull that shit with me and suffered HORRIBLY due to it. I will not be limited on what I require to heal, or convinced some hippie dippie bullshit is what I need. Totally cool if you are into that shit, I am NOT.

I chose Dr. Florence Mussatt in Chicago, IL. I was so impressed with her reviews on yelp, realself, online communities, etc that I flew in to see her. Her photos of explanted patients were superb. Many women reported how amazing she was as a surgeon. She was knowledgeable and SHE suggested BII before I whispered a single word about it. MANY accounts from women are all over the net about her and her reviews have more pictures than the “top recommended surgeons” which made me personally way more comfortable. She is hands on, texts you, checks on you, the whole deal.  My flights for my hubby and I (first class on the way back!), week long hotel stay, overnight in a hospital after surgery for care (not wheeled right out!) AND the  surgery is UNDER the cost of what one of the top surgeons on “the list” quoted for JUST my surgery alone. I felt comfortable with her. I LIKED the fact that I could go to my home state to go back to who I used to be, physically. She is NOT listed on the magical list floating around. She does enbloc, the whole shabang, has many accounts from many women AND awesome pictures that helped me make my decision. She is french, and en bloc was created IN FRANCE. I liked that lil tid bit. What I liked THE MOST is the option to stay overnight in an actual hospital. This is a major surgery. I have a history of complications and know I need it.  I like my Doctor a lot, FOR ME.

Listen to accounts from other women. They are SO amazing for sharing their photos and helping women make their choice. Peruse online communities and see the pictures whilst reading personal accounts.  I will discuss with my husband how I can tastefully share my own results to help any women looking for answers for my own doctor. This is amazing that we can help one another this way. Ignore “the list” as an END ALL BE ALL, it is a wonderful suggestion. Also blow off anyone telling you ONLY this doctor is good, etc. Listen only to accounts, look at photos and mull over the FACTS ONLY. Not opinions. If you are ever silenced, know this is red flag behavior and proceed with caution. I decided to willingly leave that community, which as I have stated, IS an amazing trove of info and populated by a lot of good eggs. I have my own platform I can express these things and not be censored at all, which I am doing right now.

 

Good luck, lovely ladies. May you make the right decision for YOU, and never let anyone question you for doing so!

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  1. Marguerite
    November 8, 2019 @ 8:34 pm
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    Incredible ..& interesting read. May all your future endeavors be showered with success & excellent outcomes.

  2. Sarah
    November 9, 2019 @ 4:17 am
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    Thank you for saying what I have been thinking about “the list” and the censorship. It needs to stop. We are a large group of amazing people and censoring the comments that dont fit the agenda is childish. Wishing you a quick recovery!

    • adrianne curry
      November 10, 2019 @ 4:58 am
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      I agree. It’s sad. I would have loudly pushed people to seek that place out…but I am wary of them and what their true intentions are now….not all the ladies…but the mods and page starter.

      • Nicola
        January 8, 2020 @ 6:45 pm
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        Thank you for sharing your story, it is sooo important for me to hear. I cannot afford the surgery, maybe, hopefully one day soon but I will consider all of your words when finally being able to get these toxic bags out of my body. ♥️

  3. Jen
    November 9, 2019 @ 3:03 pm
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    It is so important for women to advocate for themselves with healthcare.

    You know your own bodies and doctors are not mind-readers.

    Google “women advocate for self healthcare” or some other sort of similar keywords and you will find a plethora of articles about this subject.

    I think a lot of women are conditioned to accept whatever the doctors tell them without question and shamed when they speak up against what they are being told. Then you won’t get the care you deserve.

    This goes for not just what Adrianne is going through, but anything, no matter how minor you think it is.

  4. Tesh
    November 9, 2019 @ 4:32 pm
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    How poetic that line about going back to your home state to go back to who you used to be, physically.
    I hope that getting those things removed will help with all the autoimmune type symptoms you are dealing with. Praying for an excellent recovery!

  5. Jenny
    November 13, 2019 @ 12:15 am
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    I am grateful to the groups for the information they provided, but I am pissed that women are being censored and kicked out for voicing their dissenting opinions. Talk about red flags! It caused me to doubt my own wonderful surgeon’s professional medical opinions and advice because the “women on the internet know better”. Thank god i came to my senses. I’m so excited for you to have your surgery!

    • adrianne curry
      November 13, 2019 @ 9:45 pm
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      take it all with a grain of salt. it IS wonderful women support each other…but power is the great corrupter

  6. Tara Mcfarland
    December 2, 2019 @ 2:34 am
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    Thank you for sharing your journey! I have been researching Bii for two years and I have many symptoms that seem to progressively get worse. Did you find you got severe anxiety? I have developed anxiety and even panic attacks. I know our minds are soo powerful. Thank you again for talking about this…I wish you all the best for your surgery! Mine is in Jan 2020 and I can’t wait!

    • adrianne curry
      December 10, 2019 @ 7:13 pm
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      i dont claim to know what is caused by what in my life. I can accurately state they cause me pain and are most likely leaking garbage in my body. I have always been very high strung!

  7. Stephanie Vann
    December 3, 2019 @ 12:39 am
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    I just stumbled across the fact that you were explanting. I just explanted on Oct 11 with Dr MUSSAT as well. I found her highly skilled & experienced. I’m still recovering and hoping my litany of symptoms will alleviate in due to time. Best wishes for full recovery.

    • adrianne curry
      December 10, 2019 @ 7:12 pm
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      boobie destroyer doctor sisters!

  8. Size: Happy
    December 21, 2019 @ 8:10 pm
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    Hell yes! I love this blog you wrote. I couldn’t agree more. Ive been saying this for a year now about “recommended explant surgeon” list. So proud of you for putting your health before anything.

    • adrianne curry
      December 29, 2019 @ 1:17 am
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      xoxoxo

  9. Jennifer
    December 22, 2019 @ 1:53 am
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    Thank you for this and for being courageous to speak up, openly and honestly. You have a great platform and I commend you for using it. I work for a wonderful plastic surgeon, who also did my explant 6/2019 and I know a woman who wanted to get his name added to “the list”…that will never happen, I’m sure! Keep sharing your truth!!

  10. Rachel McCabe
    December 22, 2019 @ 2:39 am
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    Hi Adrianne. I just found this article as I was doing more research on BII. I am actually explanting with Dr. Mussat on January 17th. I had one previous appointment before her, it was with a man not on the list. When he said,” my husband may not like the look of my explanted breasts”, I almost ran out. Mussat was my second consult and I really trusted her right away. She did measuring and explained options and just made me feel overall calm. I had two more consults planned. One with a man, on the list who it took me months just to get a consult and he’s booked into May :/ But I have cancelled the consult after finding comfort and professionalism with Mussat. I’m happy to hear you had a good experience with her. I have only heard and seen great things. I’m hoping that the pain I am having slows down after explant. It seems to be truly life changing for some. Thanks for the article, it was great!

    • adrianne curry
      December 29, 2019 @ 1:16 am
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      mussat was NOT on the list when I chose her….that list is pay to play…but I trust her very much. I also explant in jan

      • Liset
        January 24, 2020 @ 5:54 am
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        I re-read the information on the page of the Healing Breast Implant Illness website that has the explant surgeon list and it clearly says it’s a list of surgeons that were hired and then recommended by women who either are or were members of the associated Facebook group. It doesn’t purport to be an exclusive list which of course would be ridiculous because there are thousands of plastic surgeons in the United States. Undeniably a huge percentage of them spend their days shoving toxic bags in women and it stands to reason they would lack the skills to explant correctly since they have no experience doing it. It seems to me that a list of qualified surgeons from all over the country who have been hired by other women who then recommended them would be a great resource for sick women.

        • adrianne curry
          January 28, 2020 @ 3:09 am
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          that page is ran by scam artists taking people’s money…period

        • adrianne curry
          January 28, 2020 @ 3:10 am
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          the women on it are fine…the mods and page admin are scammers

  11. Sarah M
    December 29, 2019 @ 2:19 pm
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    Great post! I was immediately blocked from the big group last week for commenting on your Facebook post, that I hoped they weren’t taking money from doctors. What are they – five year olds? Red flags everywhere in that group. Thankfully I found a little FB group right here in Michigan full of amazing ladies that don’t believe in censorship.

    My doctor is on their list, but I chose her after much research and I believe she is one of the best in Michigan. She took almost two hours in her consult with me and I can text her office manager on his cell any time a question or concern pops into my terrified brain. She also operates out of a hospital, a branch of the one that I happen to work for as a nurse for over 20-years now. My OCD and fear of surgery is soothed a bit that there is a code team on staff if an emergency arises.

    I explant in one month and am loathe with fear, but moving forward because these toxic tatas need to come out. I wish you the best in your surgery and hope you have a smooth recovery ❤️❤️ Thank you as always for being so real!!

  12. Liset
    January 9, 2020 @ 2:16 am
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    I found several Facebook groups and pages with information about breast implant illness and explanting. Some of them are great and some are ridiculous. One group has a list of surgeons with an associated website. It says they were recommended by other members of the Facebook group and Dr. Mussat is on that list. It’s not an approved list from what I could tell; it’s just a list of surgeons other women used.

    • adrianne curry
      January 9, 2020 @ 2:42 am
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      She was not on that list when I was a member of that group…and I got bullied and told how I shouldnt choose her. Groups of people tend to be stupid. I really wanted support and found a lot of fear mongering. Take the info, but do not trust that list. It’s not made from multiple women…but a few. I know many surgeons who are awesome that are excluded…most likely because they’d compete with their “top surgeons”

      • Rachel Blogg
        February 21, 2020 @ 2:44 pm
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        Omg!!! Adrianne thanks for sharing your story! I’ve been through 6 total surgeries (1st one was BA and then the following 4 were revisions and the 6th was exposing)! My husband found your article about being insecure with your body now and I so can relate! He too has been my rock and so supportive! I’m beyond grateful for my health as well since removing them and many of my BII symptoms have gone, however I still struggle with my confidence about my body! I agree about those Facebook groups (one in particular) and can’t stress enough for people to do their research and if someone in as group

        • Rachel Blogg
          February 21, 2020 @ 2:49 pm
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          Sorry I hit submit accidentally! I was saying that if someone in one of the Facebook groups attacks or bullies another for the choices they make they should leave that group. How one explants and deals with capsules and other stuff is a personal journey. The best decision I made was explanting and it’s a daily struggle to accept my body as it is. Yes I am grateful for my health and most BII symptoms have gone away and learning to be comfortable in my new skin takes work. Thanks for sharing your story and being so honest!!! ❤️

  13. Jenn
    January 9, 2020 @ 4:08 am
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    I discovered the big Facebook group a year and a half ago and did a lot of research into the surgeons on the list. I made sure not to choose based on location or cost, rather, who I felt would be the best for me. I never actually put any thought into or questioned how “the list” was put together but I ended up going with a surgeon on the list of “highest recommended” and it came with a hefty price tag, i traveled 10 hours by car but it was worth every penny. I realize that there are SO many amazing surgeons so I spent a year in his particular Facebook group, getting to know his patients and read and see their experience and outcomes. Because of that, I booked with him a year after I decided to remove my implants and then 5 months later on 12.20.19 I had them out. 2.5 weeks post op and very happy!

    • adrianne curry
      January 9, 2020 @ 2:06 pm
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      I think that is wonderful! However, knowing dr strawn does. Better work than chun and is kept off that list makes it very clear favoritism is being played. I 1as also bullied and told mussat would butcher me. As she was not on their list when I chose her. The support group felt more cult like….and the women offered so much false information and fear mongering I had to step away. I’m lucky to be related to so many medical professionals i can trust. I balk at “google dr” soccer moms . I went with who i chose for me anyway and am very glad i did. …regardless of the bullying i got for my choice

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